In the episode of RSGB Talk, Nick Rawlings is joined by Lisa Daniels and Dan Whittle (TSO); and Inspector Colin Reid, Police Scotland, to discuss Motorcycle Roadcraft.
The podcast has been published as part of Road Safety GB’s online PTW event.
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I would like to ask about the pre-publication proof reading which may or may not go on prior to the Roadcraft book going to print. Who is responsible for the proof reading. Also I am aware that the IAM Roadsmart motorcycling has produced their version of Roadcraft, which is smaller in every way. Unfortunately it has many spelling mistakes, grammatical errors and pictures which do not seem to be of any benefit to the context of the page.
How are publications on occasion released in such poor value?
M Campbell, Scotland
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Re: Tony Clarke’s good question; in my ‘previous life’ I was actively involved in the encouragement of dealers to support the introduction of ‘Bikesafe’ to my then home county {Hants}. Most of the riders who stepped up to the plate for a check ride were already competent riders who wanted to improve, which to my mind displays a good attitude.. What advanced training like IAM/RoSPA can’t really do is guarantee a change in rider attitude beyond them passing the test. Attitude is everything and without the right attitude being applied alongside the acquired skills that a series of advanced riding observation and guidance can give, there is every chance that rider safety will not be improved.
Geoff Cadman, Ipswich
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Interesting question posed: ‘Does Advanced Training make you safer?’
No evidence presented.
I recall that at an IAM conference several years ago, the ‘Insurer of Choice’ (IAM Surety, now Cornmarket) did try to answer this question based on claims data. The very surprising answer was ‘NO! Advanced riders made just as many claims as others!’ However, the COST of the claims tends to be lower then with ‘non Advanced’.
So why is this, we asked:
Insurance excesses are typically lower for IAM members insured through them so it may simply be that members claimed when others might not e.g. for the damage caused by dropping a machine on the drive;
advanced riders tend to have feet on the pegs during slow manoeuvring, when whilst others might be more tempted to paddle when others didn’t;
and typically an advanced rider will cover many more miles than the average motorcyclist.
So … a very difficult question to answer. And as suggested, this might need some proper research.
Tony Clarke, Cambridge, England
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Well done Nick for pushing the question of evidence and research. Challenge is great and your point was well made. We need to prove it works.
Iain Temperton, Norwich
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I am one of the Regional Coordinators for Bikesafe and I found this to be an interesting podcast on Road Craft.
We use this publication throughout our presentations and I am pleased to hear that there is also an electronic version of this.
In relation to the statistics surrounding the benefits of this publication, I think the fact that it has been in use as a training tool by the police for so over 60 years, speaks volumes.
I firmly believe that this handbook applies to ALL riders of any type of powered two wheeler.
Glen McArthur, Sussex
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